{"id":1314,"date":"2023-12-12T21:10:43","date_gmt":"2023-12-12T20:10:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/?post_type=docs&#038;p=1314"},"modified":"2023-12-12T21:10:43","modified_gmt":"2023-12-12T20:10:43","password":"","slug":"ahmed-sirri-dede-dedebaba","status":"publish","type":"docs","link":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/thema\/ahmed-sirri-dede-dedebaba\/","title":{"rendered":"Ahmed S\u0131rr\u00ee Dede\/Dedebaba"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>1895\u2019te Arnavutluk\u2019ta Levkovik \u015fehrinde do\u011fmu\u015ftur. Babas\u0131 \u015eahin Efendidir. \u201cTepedelenli Ali Pa\u015fa zaman\u0131nda Arnavutluk\u2019ta on be\u015f ya\u015f\u0131ndaki gen\u00e7lerin yeti\u015ftirildi\u011fi Derv\u00ee\u015f Koleji\u2019nden Selim R\u00fbh\u00ee Baba, Tahir Baba ve Amerika\u2019daki Bekt\u00e2\u015f\u00ee Tarikat\u0131\u2019n\u0131n son temsilcilerinden Receb Baba\u2019yla birlikte mezun olmu\u015ftur. (Y\u0131lmaz 1999, 27) Pri\u015ftine\u2019deki Bekta\u015f\u00ee tekkesinin post-ni\u015f\u00eeni \u015eaban Baba\u2019ya hitaben yaz\u0131lan mektup \u00fczerine ondan nasip alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<br \/>\nM\u00fcr\u015f\u00eedinin izniyle Hac\u0131 Bekta\u015f Vel\u00ee\u2019nin mak\u00e2m\u0131n\u0131 ziyaret i\u00e7in Anadolu\u2019ya gelmi\u015ftir. Bir s\u00fcre 1922-1923 senelerinde Tarsus\u2019taki tekkenin m\u00fcr\u015f\u00eedi Hakk\u2019a y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in burada ir\u015fad hizmetinde bulunmu\u015ftur. Daha sonra Kerbel\u00e2 ve Necef-i E\u015fref \u2019i ziyaret maksad\u0131yla yeniden yola koyulmu\u015ftur. Sonra tekrar M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019a d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba, Salih Niy\u00e2zi Baba\u2019dan 1935 y\u0131l\u0131nda halifelik alm\u0131\u015f, 30 Ocak 1949 y\u0131l\u0131nda ise dedebaba olarak se\u00e7ilmi\u015ftir (G\u00fcm\u00fc\u015fo\u011flu, 2016, 200)<br \/>\nDaha sonra Kahire\u2019deki Bekt\u00e2\u015f\u00ee Derg\u00e2h\u0131\u2019na giderek, orada g\u00f6rev yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnde Kral Faruk\u2019la aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkileri nedeniyle, ta\u015fk\u0131n ve asab\u00ee hareketleri vard\u0131r. \u015eeker hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131na yakalan\u0131r. M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019da iken kangren oldu ve tedavi i\u00e7in Receb Baba\u2019yla Amerika\u2019ya gider. Orada bacaklar\u0131 kesilir ve yetmi\u015f be\u015f ya\u015f\u0131nda \u0130stanbul\u2019da vefat eder. \u00d6zellikle kabir ta\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n okunmas\u0131nda ustayd\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu konuda Arnavutluk\u2019taki Derv\u00ee\u015f Koleji\u2019nde e\u011fitim alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131.\u201d (Y\u0131lmaz, 1999, 27)<br \/>\nS\u0131rr\u00ee Baba \/ Dede, M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019a Kaygusuz derg\u00e2h\u0131na 1913\u2019te \u015eaban Baba ile birlikte gitmi\u015f orada postni\u015f\u00een Mehmet L\u00fbtfi Baba\u2019dan derv\u00ee\u015f kisvesi giymi\u015ftir. Sonra P\u00eerevi\u2019ne gelip (Hac\u0131bekta\u015f\u2019ta) gelip (Hac\u0131bekta\u015f\u2019ta) Salih Niy\u00e2zi Dedebaba\u2019dan m\u00fccerredlik nas\u00eebi alm\u0131\u015f, iki y\u0131l orada kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Kendi yazm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu yar\u0131s\u0131 T\u00fcrk\u00e7e yar\u0131s\u0131 Arap\u00e7a, M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019da Bekta\u015f\u00eelik tarihinden s\u00f6z eden ufak bir risalede Mehmed L\u00fbtf\u0131 Baban\u0131n Receb 1342 hicride (1924 M.) kendisine icazet vererek baba yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve kendisini vekil ve vel\u00eeaht atad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 kaydetmektedir.<br \/>\nS\u0131rr\u00ee Dede\u2019nin \u00f6nemli hat\u0131ralar\u0131n\u0131 Noyan Dedebaba\u2019n\u0131n kendi kaleminden \u00f6\u011freniyoruz: Ahmed S\u0131rr\u00ee Baba \/ Dede, belge i\u00e7erisinde belirtilen tarihler, k\u0131smen hicri k\u0131smen miladi olarak yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Derg\u00e2hlar kapand\u0131ktan sonra ise T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den nasip alanlar\u0131n ad\u0131 kaydedilmemi\u015ftir. Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba\u2019n\u0131n M\u0131s\u0131r, Tarsus, Yunanistan, Makedonya, \u0130stanbul ve Tire\u2019de de meydan a\u00e7arak hizmette bulundu\u011fu tespit edilmi\u015ftir. Dahas\u0131, Mahmut Fahri Pa\u015fa\u2019ya kendi saray\u0131nda nasip verilmesi, derv\u00ee\u015flik ve m\u00fcr\u015f\u00eedlik hizmetini Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba\u2019n\u0131n kendisinin yapm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131 ilgin\u00e7tir ve genel uygulamaya uygun de\u011fildir. Nedeni ise tespit edilememi\u015ftir. Ayr\u0131ca yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ara\u015ft\u0131rmalarda, o d\u00f6nemi ya\u015fayan ki\u015filerden ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z bilgilerden \u015fu sonuca varmaktay\u0131z: Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba, 1950 y\u0131l\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelip iki y\u0131l kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bekta\u015f\u00ee babas\u0131 k\u0131yafetiyle dola\u015fmas\u0131 yasa gere\u011fi yasak oldu\u011fundan sokakta dola\u015fmamas\u0131 i\u00e7in \u0130stanbul Kad\u0131k\u00f6y\u2019de \u015fimdi itfaiyenin oldu\u011fu yerde bir \u00e7iftlik evinde kald\u0131ktan sonra rahats\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 nedeniyle, \u00c7aml\u0131ca\u2019da bir k\u00f6\u015fkte bir s\u00fcre misafir edilmi\u015ftir. Daha sonra bir s\u00fcre de \u0130zmir Tire\u2019deki derg\u00e2hta ya\u015fad\u0131ktan sonra, 05.10.1952 tarihinde G\u00f6ztepe \u015eair Ar\u015fi caddesi \u00dc\u00e7 K\u00f6\u015fkler ad\u0131yla bilinen yerde, muhabbet i\u00e7in kurulan bir sofrada, Bekta\u015f\u00ee \u00e2yini a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 su\u00e7lamas\u0131yla 18 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131ktan sonra serbest b\u0131rak\u0131l\u0131p yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131na g\u00f6nderilmi\u015ftir (Milliyet gazetesi, 05.10.1952).<br \/>\nSon zamanlarda M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019daki derg\u00e2h\u0131 N\u00e2s\u0131r H\u00fck\u00fcmeti kapatm\u0131\u015f, Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba da hastalanm\u0131\u015f, mefl\u00fb\u00e7 bir halde bir Muhibbe Bac\u0131\u2019n\u0131n evinde bak\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve 1964 y\u0131l\u0131nda Hakk\u2019a y\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. Lokma T\u00f6reni Tire\u2019de Horasanl\u0131 Ali Baba Derg\u00e2h\u0131\u2019nda yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r (G\u00fcm\u00fc\u015fo\u011flu, 2016, 204).<br \/>\nS\u0131rr\u00ee Dede, kendisinin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye geldi\u011fi zaman dedebaba oldu\u011funu iddia etmektedir. Bedri Noyan ise 1966 y\u0131l\u0131 Ekim ay\u0131nda yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir gezide Yugoslavya\u2019da Yakova Bekta\u015f\u00ee derg\u00e2h\u0131 post-ni\u015f\u00eeni Hal\u00eefe K\u00e2z\u0131m Bakali Baba ile de g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fc zaman \u201cS\u0131rr\u0131 Baba\u2019n\u0131n bu \u015fekilde davran\u0131\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n duyuldu\u011funun, kendisini Dedebaba olarak tan\u0131tm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131n\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir hata ve ger\u00e7ekd\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131k oldu\u011funun s\u00f6ylendi\u011fini belirtir. (Noyan, VI,16)<br \/>\nS\u0131rr\u00ee Baba \/ Dede pek \u00e7ok ki\u015fiye nasip vermi\u015f ve rehber olmu\u015ftur. \u0130krar verenlerden 18 ki\u015finin muharrem ay\u0131nda, 34 ki\u015finin Nevruz, 8 ki\u015finin Kurban Bayram\u0131 gecesi ve kalan di\u011ferlerinin ise farkl\u0131 aylarda nasip ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 veya derv\u00ee\u015flik t\u00f6renlerinin yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fclmektedir. \u0130lgili belgeden anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re toplam olarak Mehmed L\u00fctfi Baba\u2019n\u0131n 64 ki\u015fiye, Ahmed S\u0131rr\u0131 Baba\u2019n\u0131n ise 86 ki\u015fiye m\u00fcr\u015f\u00eedlik yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 anla\u015f\u0131lmaktad\u0131r. (G\u00fcm\u00fc\u015fo\u011flu, 2016, 204) <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1895\u2019te Arnavutluk\u2019ta Levkovik \u015fehrinde do\u011fmu\u015ftur. Babas\u0131 \u015eahin Efendidir. \u201cTepedelenli Ali Pa\u015fa zaman\u0131nda Arnavutluk\u2019ta on be\u015f ya\u015f\u0131ndaki gen\u00e7lerin yeti\u015ftirildi\u011fi Derv\u00ee\u015f Koleji\u2019nden Selim R\u00fbh\u00ee Baba, Tahir Baba ve Amerika\u2019daki Bekt\u00e2\u015f\u00ee Tarikat\u0131\u2019n\u0131n son temsilcilerinden Receb Baba\u2019yla birlikte mezun olmu\u015ftur. (Y\u0131lmaz 1999, 27) Pri\u015ftine\u2019deki Bekta\u015f\u00ee tekkesinin post-ni\u015f\u00eeni \u015eaban Baba\u2019ya hitaben yaz\u0131lan mektup \u00fczerine ondan nasip alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. M\u00fcr\u015f\u00eedinin izniyle Hac\u0131 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"doc_category":[34],"doc_tag":[],"class_list":["post-1314","docs","type-docs","status-publish","hentry","doc_category-alevilikte-oenemli-sahsiyetler"],"acf":[],"year_month":"2026-10","word_count":870,"total_views":"3542","reactions":{"happy":"1","normal":"0","sad":"0"},"author_info":{"name":"redaktion","author_nicename":"redaktion","author_url":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/author\/redaktion\/"},"doc_category_info":[{"term_name":"Alevilikte \u00d6nemli \u015eahsiyetler","term_url":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/themen-kategorie\/alevilikte-oenemli-sahsiyetler\/"}],"doc_tag_info":[],"knowledge_base_info":[],"knowledge_base_slug":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/docs\/1314","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/docs"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/docs"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1314"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/docs\/1314\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1314"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"doc_category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/doc_category?post=1314"},{"taxonomy":"doc_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alevipedia.org\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/doc_tag?post=1314"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}